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This article is based entirely on the views expressed by the [[Ten Sikh Gurus|Sikh Gurus]] in [[Gurbani]] – and does not rely on any outside views. Guru's message is clear and unambiguous and anyone who understands [[Gurmukhi]] will be able to come to their own conclusion. | |||
To be a [[Sikh]] is to regard the SGGS as ones | [[Gurbani]] i.e. writings within the [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]] (or SGGS) are the most important spiritual guidance for a [[Sikh]] as the [[Bani]] is regarded as the [[Guru]] or ultimate "Spiritual teacher" for the [[Sikh]]. (''"Bani guru, guru hai bani vich bani amrit saaray."… "Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within Bani, all Ambrosial Nectars are found."'' [http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=982&english=t&id=42106#l42106 sggs p982]) | ||
To be a [[Sikh]] is to regard the [[SGGS]] as ones primary spiritual guide. The message within the [[Guru Granth Sahib]] is the universal and moral guide for all of humanity and in particular for all [[Sikh]]s. No [[Hukamnama]] (order, directive or decree) by anyone other than the Sikh [[Guru]] can move the [[Guru]]'s [[Sikh]] away from this stand (''"Hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal.." …. " O Nanak, it is written that you shall obey the Hukam of His Command, and walk in the Way of His Will"''. [http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=1&english=t&id=10#l10 sggs p1]). | |||
[[Gurbani]] offers clear guidance on this important issue. The following quotes from [[Varan Bhai Gurdas]] and [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]] give the Sikhs clear and concise direction on what a [[Sikh]] should eat or not eat and other aspect of this important facet of a person's spiritual and moral life. | [[Gurbani]] offers clear guidance on this important issue. The following quotes from [[Varan Bhai Gurdas]] and [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]] give the Sikhs clear and concise direction on what a [[Sikh]] should eat or not eat and other aspect of this important facet of a person's spiritual and moral life. | ||
[[Bhai Gurdas]] | ==Background== | ||
[[Bhai Gurdas]] Ji was the first scribe of the [[Adi Granth]]. He was responsible for writing the first compilation of the Holy Granth. While [[Guru Arjan Dev]] ji dictated the [[Bani]], Bhai Sahib put the words to paper. He is recognised as the first '''"Scholar of Sikhism"''' and his own writings, called the [[Varan Bhai Gurdas]] were called by [[Guru Arjan Dev]], '''"the Key to the [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]]"'''. The [[Varan Bhai Gurdas|Varan]] also offer clear secondary guidance on this subject to the Sikh as well. | |||
Despite this article outlining the fact that eating meat is not in strict compliance with the principles of [[Sikhism]], it should be very clear to all that whether one eats meat or not, is '''only one aspect of the life of a Sikh'''. So no greater importance should be given to this issue at the expense of the many other issues which are of equal importance to a Sikh. It is not an issue where one should engage in heated argument - Read Gurbani and make your own decision on this matter. | Despite this article outlining the fact that eating meat is not in strict compliance with the principles of [[Sikhism]], it should be very clear to all that whether one eats meat or not, is '''only one aspect of the life of a Sikh'''. So no greater importance should be given to this issue at the expense of the many other issues which are of equal importance to a Sikh. It is not an issue where one should engage in heated argument - Read Gurbani and make your own decision on this matter. | ||
This topic is very emotive and many Sikhs who cannot read or understand the original [[Gurmukhi]] text are unable to understand the Guru's clear message and will use their own [[Manmat]] ( | This topic is very emotive and many Sikhs who cannot read or understand the original [[Gurmukhi]] text are unable to understand the Guru's clear message and will use their own [[Manmat]] (entrenched personal stand) or views of other academics to propagate their own views or views of other who have not relied on the Guru's word. When deciding on this subject or any other issue about [[Dharam]] (righteous living), a Sikh should rely only on [[Gurbani]] and disregard views of others. (''"Saṯgur kī baṇī saṯ saṯ kar jāṇhu gursikẖahu har karṯā āp muhhu kadẖāe" … "O GurSikhs, know that the Bani, is true, absolutely true. The Creator Lord Himself causes the Guru to chant it." ''[http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=Page&Param=308&english=t&id=14101#l14101 sggs p308 ]) | ||
* Also see [[Talk:SGGS_on_meat|'''Discussion page for dialogue on this matter''']] | * Also see [[Talk:SGGS_on_meat|'''Discussion page for dialogue on this matter''']] | ||
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This section below lists [[shabad]]s directly from [[Guru Granth Sahib]] which have a connection with meat and related matters. They are further sub-divided into sub-sections for easy of reference: | This section below lists [[shabad]]s directly from [[Guru Granth Sahib]] which have a connection with meat and related matters. They are further sub-divided into sub-sections for easy of reference: | ||
==Shabads with the word "Kill"== | |||
The following [[shabad]]s have the word kill in the translation: | The following [[shabad]]s have the word kill in the translation: | ||
===Shabad page 723=== | |||
{{Srigranth|723|31114|<big> ਬੰਦੇ ਚਸਮ ਦੀਦੰ ਫਨਾਇ ॥ <br> | {{Srigranth|723|31114|<big> ਬੰਦੇ ਚਸਮ ਦੀਦੰ ਫਨਾਇ ॥ <br> | ||
ਦੁਨਂੀਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰ ਖੁਰਦਨੀ ਗਾਫਲ ਹਵਾਇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥<br> | |||
ਗੈਬਾਨ ਹੈਵਾਨ ਹਰਾਮ | ਗੈਬਾਨ ਹੈਵਾਨ ਹਰਾਮ ਕੁਸਤਨੀ ਮੁਰਦਾਰ ਬਖੋਰਾਇ ॥ <br> | ||
ਦਿਲ ਕਬਜ ਕਬਜਾ ਕਾਦਰੋ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਜਾਇ ॥੨॥ </big><br> | ਦਿਲ ਕਬਜ ਕਬਜਾ ਕਾਦਰੋ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਜਾਇ ॥੨॥ </big><br> | ||
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duneeN-aa murdaar khurdanee gaafal havaa-ay. rahaa-o. <br> | duneeN-aa murdaar khurdanee gaafal havaa-ay. rahaa-o. <br> | ||
gaibaan haivaan haraam kustanee murdaar bakhoraa-ay. <br> | gaibaan haivaan haraam kustanee murdaar bakhoraa-ay. <br> | ||
dil kabaj kabjaa kaadro dojak sajaa-ay. | dil kabaj kabjaa kaadro dojak sajaa-ay. (2) <br> | ||
O human being, whatever you can see with your eyes, shall perish. <br> | O human being, whatever you can see with your eyes, shall perish. <br> | ||
The world eats dead carcasses, living by neglect and greed. ((Pause)) <br> | The world eats dead carcasses, living by neglect and greed. ((Pause)) <br> | ||
Like a goblin, or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat. <br> | Like a goblin, or a beast, they kill and eat the forbidden carcasses of meat. <br> | ||
So control your urges, or else you will be seized by the Lord, and thrown into the tortures of hell. <br> | So control your urges, or else you will be seized by the Lord, and thrown into the tortures of hell. <br> (2)}} | ||
===Shabad page 1103=== | |||
{{Srigranth|1103|47392|<big> ਜੀਅ | {{Srigranth|1103|47392|<big> ਜੀਅ ਬਧਹੁ ਸੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਅਧਰਮੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਤ ਭਾਈ ॥ <br> | ||
ਆਪਸ ਕਉ | ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਮੁਨਿਵਰ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਕਾ ਕਉ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਸਾਈ ॥੨॥ | ||
</big><br> | </big><br> | ||
jee-a baDhahu so Dharam kar thaapahu aDhram kahhu kat bhaa-ee.<br> | jee-a baDhahu so Dharam kar thaapahu aDhram kahhu kat bhaa-ee.<br> | ||
aapas ka-o munivar kar thaapahu kaa ka-o kahhu kasaa-ee. | aapas ka-o munivar kar thaapahu kaa ka-o kahhu kasaa-ee. (2)<br> | ||
You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. <br> | You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. <br> | ||
Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action?<br> | Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action?<br> | ||
You call yourself the most excellent sage; then who would you call a butcher? | You call yourself the most excellent sage; then who would you call a butcher? (2)}} | ||
===Shabad page 1128=== | |||
{{Srigranth|1128|48254|<big> ਸੋ ਜਾਗੈ ਜੋ | {{Srigranth|1128|48254|<big> ਸੋ ਜਾਗੈ ਜੋ ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੈ ॥ <br>ਆਪਿ ਮਰੈ ਅਵਰਾ ਨਹ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੩॥ </big><br> | ||
so jaagai jo tat beechaarai.<br> | so jaagai jo tat beechaarai.<br> | ||
aap marai avraa nah maarai. | aap marai avraa nah maarai. (3)<br> | ||
One who contemplates the essence of reality remains awake and aware.<br> | One who contemplates the essence of reality remains awake and aware.<br> | ||
He kills his self-conceit, and does not kill anyone else. | He kills his self-conceit, and does not kill anyone else. (3) }}<br> | ||
===Shabad page 1350=== | |||
{{Srigranth|1350|57719|<big> ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ | {{Srigranth|1350|57719|<big> ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥ <br> | ||
ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ | ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਕਹਤ ਹਉ ਤਉ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਰਗੀ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥</big><br> | ||
bayd katayb kahhu mat jhoothay jhoothaa jo na bichaarai. <br> | bayd katayb kahhu mat jhoothay jhoothaa jo na bichaarai. <br> | ||
ja-o sabh meh ayk khudaa-ay kahat ha-o ta-o ki-o murgee maarai. | ja-o sabh meh ayk khudaa-ay kahat ha-o ta-o ki-o murgee maarai. (1) <br> | ||
Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. <br> | Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. <br> | ||
Those who do not contemplate them are false.<br> | Those who do not contemplate them are false.<br> | ||
You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? | You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? (1)}} | ||
* '''See [[SGGS 1350|SGGS 1350 for detailed breakdown]] of the Shabad''' | |||
=== | ===Shabad page 1375=== | ||
{{Srigranth|1375|58664|<big> ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀਅ ਜੁ ਮਾਰਹਿ ਜੋਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਕਹਤੇ ਹਹਿ ਜੁ ਹਲਾਲੁ ॥ <br>ਦਫਤਰੁ ਦਈ ਜਬ ਕਾਢਿ ਹੈ ਹੋਇਗਾ ਕਉਨੁ ਹਵਾਲੁ ॥੧੯੯॥<br></big> | |||
kabeer jee-a jo maareh jor kar kahtay heh jo halaal. <br> | |||
daftar da-ee jab kaadh hai ho-igaa ka-un havaal. (199) <br> | |||
Kabeer, they oppress living beings and kill them, and call it proper. <br> | |||
When the Lord calls for their account, what will their condition be? (199) }} | |||
==Other Shabads connected with Meat== | |||
<big> | ===Shabad Page 15=== | ||
{{Srigranth|15|642|<big>ਰਸੁ ਸੁਇਨਾ ਰਸੁ ਰੁਪਾ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਰਮਲ ਕੀ ਵਾਸੁ ॥ <br> | |||
ਰਸੁ ਘੋੜੇ ਰਸੁ ਸੇਜਾ ਮੰਦਰ ਰਸੁ ਮੀਠਾ ਰਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ॥ <br> | |||
ਏਤੇ ਰਸ ਸਰੀਰ ਕੇ ਕੈ ਘਟਿ ਨਾਮ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੨॥ <br><br></big> | |||
< | ras su-inaa ras rupaa kaaman ras parmal kee vaas.<br> | ||
ras ghorhay ras sayjaa mandar ras meethaa ras maas. <br> | |||
aytay ras sareer kay kai ghat naam nivaas. ॥2॥<br><br> | |||
The pleasure of gold, pleasure of silvers and damsels, pleasure of fragrance of sandal,<br> | |||
pleasure of horses, pleasure of common cushion with a houri and a palace, pleasure of sweets and pleasure of meats,<br> | |||
So many are the relishes of the human body. How can then God's Name secure an abode within the heart? ॥2॥}} | |||
* English translation by Bhai Manmohan Singh | |||
===Shabad Page 139=== | |||
{{Srigranth|139|5720|<big>ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ਖਾਇ ॥ ਅਵਰੀ ਨੋ ਸਮਝਾਵਣਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ <br> | |||
ਮੁਠਾ ਆਪਿ ਮੁਹਾਏ ਸਾਥੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਐਸਾ ਆਗੂ ਜਾਪੈ ॥੧॥ </big><br><br> | |||
Kūṛ bol murḏār kẖā▫e. Avrī no samjẖāvaṇ jā▫e. <br> | |||
Muṯẖā āp muhā▫e sāthai. Nānak aisā āgū jāpai. ॥1॥<br><br> | |||
Telling lies, they eat dead bodies. And yet, they go out to teach others. <br> | |||
They are deceived, and they deceive their companions. O Nanak, such are the leaders of men. ॥1॥ }} | |||
===Shabad Page 141=== | |||
{{Srigranth|141|5767|<big> | {{Srigranth|141|5767|<big>ਹਕੁ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਉਸੁ ਸੂਅਰ ਉਸੁ ਗਾਇ ॥ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੀਰੁ ਹਾਮਾ ਤਾ ਭਰੇ ਜਾ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ਨ ਖਾਇ ॥<br> | ||
ਗਲੀ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਨ | ਗਲੀ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਈਐ ਛੁਟੈ ਸਚੁ ਕਮਾਇ ॥ ਮਾਰਣ ਪਾਹਿ ਹਰਾਮ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਇ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ <br> | ||
ਨਾਨਕ ਗਲੀ ਕੂੜੀਈ ਕੂੜੋ ਪਲੈ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥</big><br> | ਨਾਨਕ ਗਲੀ ਕੂੜੀਈ ਕੂੜੋ ਪਲੈ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥</big><br> | ||
hak paraa-i-aa naankaa us soo-ar us gaa-ay. gur peer haamaa taa bharay jaa murdaar na khaa-ay. <br>galee bhisat na jaa-ee-ai chhutai sach kamaa-ay. maaran paahi haraam meh ho-ay halaal na jaa-ay.<br>naanak galee koorhee-ee koorho palai paa-ay. ॥2॥<br> | hak paraa-i-aa naankaa us soo-ar us gaa-ay. gur peer haamaa taa bharay jaa murdaar na khaa-ay. <br>galee bhisat na jaa-ee-ai chhutai sach kamaa-ay. maaran paahi haraam meh ho-ay halaal na jaa-ay.<br>naanak galee koorhee-ee koorho palai paa-ay. ॥2॥<br> | ||
: To take what rightfully belongs to another, | : To take what rightfully belongs to another, would be like a Muslim eating pork, or a Hindu eating beef.<br>Our Guru, our Spiritual Guide, stands by us, if we do not eat those carcasses.<br>By mere talk, people do not earn passage to Heaven. Salvation comes only from the practice of Truth.<br>By adding spices to forbidden foods, they are not made acceptable.<br>O Nanak, from false talk, only falsehood is obtained. ॥2॥}} | ||
===Shabad Page 483=== | |||
{{Srigranth|483|21844|<big>ਰੋਜਾ ਧਰੈ ਮਨਾਵੈ ਅਲਹੁ ਸੁਆਦਤਿ ਜੀਅ ਸੰਘਾਰੈ ॥ <br> | |||
ਆਪਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਅਵਰ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ </big><br><br> | |||
Rojā ḏẖarai manāvai alhu su▫āḏaṯ jī▫a sangẖārai. <br> | |||
Āpā ḏekẖ avar nahī ḏekẖai kāhe ka▫o jẖakẖ mārai. ॥1॥ <br><br> | |||
You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure. <br> | |||
You look after your own interests, and so not see the interests of others. What good is your word? ॥1॥ }} | |||
===Shabad Page 1242=== | |||
{{Srigranth| | {{Srigranth|1242|53443|<big>ਕਲਿ ਹੋਈ ਕੁਤੇ ਮੁਹੀ ਖਾਜੁ ਹੋਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ॥ ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਬੋਲਿ ਭਉਕਣਾ ਚੂਕਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥</big><br> | ||
kal ho-ee kutay muhee khaaj ho-aa murdaar. koorh bol bol bha-ukanaa chookaa Dharam beechaar.<br> | kal ho-ee kutay muhee khaaj ho-aa murdaar. koorh bol bol bha-ukanaa chookaa Dharam beechaar.<br> | ||
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They bark and speak, telling only lies; all thought of righteousness has left them. }} | They bark and speak, telling only lies; all thought of righteousness has left them. }} | ||
===Shabad Page 1374=== | |||
{{Srigranth| | {{Srigranth|1374|58642|<big> ਕਬੀਰ ਜੋਰੀ ਕੀਏ ਜੁਲਮੁ ਹੈ ਕਹਤਾ ਨਾਉ ਹਲਾਲੁ ॥ ਦਫਤਰਿ ਲੇਖਾ ਮਾਂਗੀਐ ਤਬ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਕਉਨੁ ਹਵਾਲੁ ॥੧੮੭॥ <br> | ||
ਕਬੀਰ ਖੂਬੁ ਖਾਨਾ ਖੀਚਰੀ ਜਾ ਮਹਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਲੋਨੁ ॥ ਹੇਰਾ ਰੋਟੀ ਕਾਰਨੇ ਗਲਾ ਕਟਾਵੈ ਕਉਨੁ ॥੧੮੮॥ </big><br> | |||
Kabīr jorī kī▫e julam hai kahṯā nā▫o halāl. Ḏafṯar lekẖā māʼngī▫ai ṯab ho▫igo ka▫un havāl. (187)<br> | |||
kabeer khoob khaanaa kheechree jaa meh amrit lon. hayraa rotee kaarnay galaa kataavai ka-un. (188) <br> | |||
Kabeer, to use force is tyranny, even if you call it legal. <br> | |||
When your account is called for in the Court of the Lord, what will your condition be then? (187) <br> | |||
Kabeer, the dinner of beans and rice is excellent, if it is flavored with salt. <br> | |||
Who would cut his throat, to have meat with his bread? (188)}} | |||
==Shabads in connection with fish== | |||
{{Srigranth|1377|58738| | |||
<big>ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ <br> | |||
ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥ </big><br><br> | |||
kabeer bhaaNg maachhulee suraa paan jo jo paraanee khaaNhi. <br> | kabeer bhaaNg maachhulee suraa paan jo jo paraanee khaaNhi. <br> | ||
tirath barat naym kee-ay tay sabhai rasaatal jaaNhi. ॥233॥ <br><br> | |||
Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine <br> | |||
- no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ॥233॥}} | - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ॥233॥}} | ||
==Shabads referring to "Eat a Simple Diet" == | |||
{{Srigranth|467|21091|<big> | {{Srigranth|467|21091|<big> ਓਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਮੰਦੈ ਪੈਰੁ ਨ ਰਖਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਸੁਕ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ ॥ <br> ਓਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਤੋੜੇ ਬੰਧਨਾ ਅੰਨੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਥੋੜਾ ਖਾਇਆ ॥ </big><br> | ||
onHee mandai pair na rakhi-o kar sukarit Dharam kamaa-i-aa. <br> | onHee mandai pair na rakhi-o kar sukarit Dharam kamaa-i-aa. <br> | ||
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They burn away the bonds of the world, and eat a simple diet of grain and water.}} | They burn away the bonds of the world, and eat a simple diet of grain and water.}} | ||
== Fools Argue about Meat & Flesh== | |||
* '''See full Shabad [[SGGS page 1289|here]]''' | * '''See full Shabad [[SGGS page 1289|here]]''' | ||
{{Srigranth|1289|55398|ਮਃ ੧ ॥ मः १ ॥ mehlaa 1. First Mehl: <br> | {{Srigranth|1289|55398|ਮਃ ੧ ॥ मः १ ॥ mehlaa 1. First Mehl: <br> | ||
<big> | <big> ਮਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਝਗੜੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ ਕਉਣੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਉਣੁ ਸਾਗੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਕਿਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਪ ਸਮਾਣੇ ॥ <br> | ||
ਗੈਂਡਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਹੋਮ ਜਗ | ਗੈਂਡਾ ਮਾਰਿ ਹੋਮ ਜਗ ਕੀਏ ਦੇਵਤਿਆ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੇ ॥ ਮਾਸੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਬੈਸਿ ਨਕੁ ਪਕੜਹਿ ਰਾਤੀ ਮਾਣਸ ਖਾਣੇ ॥ <br> | ||
ਫੜੁ ਕਰਿ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੋ ਦਿਖਲਾਵਹਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੂਝੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਅੰਧੇ ਸਿਉ ਕਿਆ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਬੂਝੈ ॥ <br> | |||
</big><br> | </big><br> | ||
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The following Shabads are from the Varan by [[Bhai Gurdas]] ji, whose Bani is referred to as the '''"Key"''' to the [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]]: | The following Shabads are from the Varan by [[Bhai Gurdas]] ji, whose Bani is referred to as the '''"Key"''' to the [[Sri Guru Granth Sahib]]: | ||
====Vaar 25 Pauri 17=== | ===[http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=bhai_gurdas_vaaran&action=pauripage&vaar=25&pauri=17 Vaar 25 Pauri 17]=== | ||
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{{Quoter|<big> ਪਉੜੀ 17 (ਬਕਰੀ) <br> | {{Quoter|<big> ਪਉੜੀ 17 (ਬਕਰੀ) <br> | ||
ਸੀਹ ਪਜੂਤੀ ਬਕਰੀ ਮਰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਹੜ ਹੜ ਹਸੀ॥ | ਸੀਹ ਪਜੂਤੀ ਬਕਰੀ ਮਰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਹੜ ਹੜ ਹਸੀ॥ ਸੀਹੁ ਪੁਛੈ ਵਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਹੋਇ ਇਤੁ ਅਉਸਰਿ ਕਿਤੁ ਰਹਸਿ ਰਹਸੀ॥ <br> | ||
ਬਿਨਉ ਕਰੇਂਦੀ ਬਕਰੀ | ਬਿਨਉ ਕਰੇਂਦੀ ਬਕਰੀ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਅਸਾਡੇ ਕੀਚਨਿ ਖਸੀ॥ ਅਕ ਧਤੂਰਾ ਖਾਧਿਆਂ ਕੁਹਿ ਕੁਹਿ ਖਲ ਉਖਲਿ ਵਿਣਸੀ॥ <br> | ||
ਮਾਸੁ ਖਾਨਿ ਗਲ ਵਢਿ ਕੈ ਹਾਲੁ ਤਿਨਾੜਾ ਕਉਣੁ ਹੋਵਸੀ॥ ਗਰਬੁ ਗਰੀਬੀ ਦੇਹ ਖੇਹ ਖਾਜੁ ਅਖਾਜੁ ਅਕਾਜੁ ਕਰਸੀ॥ <br> | |||
ਜਗਿ ਆਇਆ ਸਭ ਕੋਇ ਮਰਸੀ </big><br> | ਜਗਿ ਆਇਆ ਸਭ ਕੋਇ ਮਰਸੀ </big><br> | ||
Pauri 17 (She Goat)<br> | |||
seeh pajoothee bakaree maradhee hoee harr harr hasee. | seeh pajoothee bakaree maradhee hoee harr harr hasee. | ||
seehu pushhai visamaadh hoe eith aousar kith rehas rehasee.<br> | seehu pushhai visamaadh hoe eith aousar kith rehas rehasee.<br> | ||
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jag aaeiaa sabh koe marasee. | jag aaeiaa sabh koe marasee. | ||
(She Goat) | Pauri 17 (She Goat)<br> | ||
Lion catches a goat; As the goat is dying, it begins to laugh. | Lion catches a goat; As the goat is dying, it begins to laugh. | ||
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====Vaar 37 Pauri 21=== | ===[http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=bhai_gurdas_vaaran&action=pauripage&vaar=31&pauri=9 Vaar 31 Pauri 9]=== | ||
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ਹਸਿ ਹਸਿ ਬੋਲੇ | {{Quoter|<big> ਪਉੜੀ 9 ( ਪੂਤਨਾ ) <br> | ||
ਮਾਸ ਖਾਨਿ ਗਲਿ | ਜੇ ਕਰਿ ਉਧਰੀ ਪੂਤਨਾ ਵਿਹੁ ਪੀਆਲਣੁ ਕੰਮੁ ਨ ਚੰਗਾ । ਗਨਿਕਾ ਉਧਰੀ ਆਖੀਐ ਪਰ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਇ ਨ ਲਈਐ ਪੰਗਾ । <br> | ||
ਜੀਭੈ ਹੰਦਾ ਫੇੜਿਆ ਖਉ ਦੰਦਾਂ | ਬਾਲਮੀਕੁ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਿਆ ਮਾਰੈ ਵਾਟ ਨ ਹੋਇ ਨਿਸੰਗਾ । ਫੰਧਕਿ ਉਧਰੈ ਆਖੀਅਨਿ ਫਾਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਨ ਫੜੀਐ ਟੰਗਾ । <br> | ||
ਪਰ ਤਨ ਪਰ ਧਨ ਨਿੰਦ ਕਰਿ ਹੋਇ | ਜੇ ਕਾਸਾਈ ਉਧਰਿਆ ਜੀਆ ਘਾਇ ਨ ਖਾਈਐ ਭੰਗਾ । ਪਾਰਿ ਉਤਾਰੈ ਬੋਹਿਥਾ ਸੁਇਨਾ ਲੋਹੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਇਕ ਰੰਗਾ । ਇਤੁ ਭਰਵਾਸੈ ਰਹਣੁ ਕੁਢੰਗਾ ॥੯॥ </big><br> | ||
ਵਸਿ ਆਵੈ | |||
Pauri 9 (Putana)<br> | |||
jay kari udharee pootanaa vihu peeaalanu kanmu n changaa. ganikaa udharee aakheeai par ghari jaai n aeeai pangaa. <br> | |||
baalameeku nisataariaa maarai vaat n hoi nisangaa. dhandhaki udharai aakheeani dhaahee paai n dharheeai tangaa. <br> | |||
jay kaasaaee udhariaa jeeaa ghaai n khaaeeai bhangaa. paari utaarai bohidaa suinaa ohu naahee ik rangaa. itu bharavaasai rahanu kuddhangaa (9) <br> | |||
Pauri 9 (Putana)<br> | |||
Even if Putana (female demon) got liberated that does not mean that poisoning some one is a good act.<br> | |||
Garika (a prostitute) was liberated but one should not enter other's house and invite trouble. <br> | |||
Since Valmiki got blessed, one should not adopt the way of highway robbery. <br> | |||
A bird catcher is also said to be liberated, but we should not catch hold of the leg of others by using snares. <br> | |||
If Sadhana, the butcher got across (the world ocean), we should not put ourselves to harm by killing others. <br> | |||
Ship takes across both iron and gold but still their forms and colours are not the same. <br> | |||
In fact, living on such hopes is a bad life style.| Vaar 31 Pauri 9}} | |||
===[http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=bhai_gurdas_vaaran&action=pauripage&vaar=37&pauri=21 Vaar 37 Pauri 21]=== | |||
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{{Quoter|<big> ਪਉੜੀ 21 ( ਨਿਗੁਰਾ ਮਨਮੁਖੁ ਵਸ ਵਿਚ ਨਹੀ ਆ ਸਕਦਾ ) <br> | |||
ਕੁਹੈ ਕਸਾਈ ਬਕਰੀ ਲਾਇ ਲੂਣ ਸੀਖ ਮਾਸੁ ਪਰੋਆ॥ | |||
ਹਸਿ ਹਸਿ ਬੋਲੇ ਕੁਹੀਂਦੀ ਖਾਧੇ ਅਕਿ ਹਾਲੁ ਇਹੁ ਹੋਆ॥ <br> | |||
ਮਾਸ ਖਾਨਿ ਗਲਿ ਛੁਰੀ ਦੇ ਹਾਲੁ ਤਿਨਾੜਾ ਕਉਣੁ ਅਲੋਆ॥ | |||
ਜੀਭੈ ਹੰਦਾ ਫੇੜਿਆ ਖਉ ਦੰਦਾਂ ਮੁਹੁ ਭੰਨਿ ਵਿਗੋਆ॥ <br> | |||
ਪਰ ਤਨ ਪਰ ਧਨ ਨਿੰਦ ਕਰਿ ਹੋਇ ਦੁਜੀਭਾ ਬਿਸੀਅਰੁ ਭੋਆ॥ | |||
ਵਸਿ ਆਵੈ ਗੁਰੁਮੰਤ ਸਪੁ ਨਿਗੁਰਾ ਮਨਮੁਖੁ ਸੁਣੈ ਨ ਸੋਆ॥ <br> | |||
ਵੇਖਿ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਅਗੈ ਟੋਆ </big><br> | ਵੇਖਿ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਅਗੈ ਟੋਆ </big><br> | ||
Pauri 21 (One having no Guru is uncontrollable)<br> | |||
kuhai kasaaee bakaree laae loon seekh maas paroaa. | kuhai kasaaee bakaree laae loon seekh maas paroaa. | ||
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vaekh n chalai agai ttoaa.<br> | vaekh n chalai agai ttoaa.<br> | ||
Pauri 21 ( | Pauri 21 (One having no Guru is uncontrollable) <br> | ||
The butcher slaughters the goat; salts the meat and strings it on a skewer. <br> | The butcher slaughters the goat; salts the meat and strings it on a skewer. <br> | ||
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====Kabir On Meat Issue==== | |||
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<big>ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥ ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਕਹਤ ਹਉ ਤਉ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਰਗੀ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ </big><br> | |||
Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false. You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1|| </big><br> | |||
<big>ਮੁਲਾਂ ਕਹਹੁ ਨਿਆਉ ਖੁਦਾਈ ॥ ਤੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </big><br> | |||
O Mullah, tell me: is this God's Justice? The doubts of your mind have not been dispelled. ||1||Pause|| <br> | |||
<big>ਪਕਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਆਨਿਆ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਮਾਟੀ ਕਉ ਬਿਸਮਿਲਿ ਕੀਆ ॥ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪ ਅਨਾਹਤ ਲਾਗੀ ਕਹੁ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਕਿਆ ਕੀਆ ॥੨॥ </big><br> | |||
You seize a living creature, and then bring it home and kill its body; you have killed only the clay. The light of the soul passes into another form. So tell me, what have you killed? ||2|| <br> | |||
<big>ਕਿਆ ਉਜੂ ਪਾਕੁ ਕੀਆ ਮੁਹੁ ਧੋਇਆ ਕਿਆ ਮਸੀਤਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਕਪਟੁ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਹੁ ਕਿਆ ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਇਆ ॥੩॥ </big><br> | |||
And what good are your purifications? Why do you bother to wash your face? And why do you bother to bow your head in the mosque? Your heart is full of hypocrisy; what good are your prayers or your pilgrimage to Mecca? ||3|| <br> | |||
<big>ਤੂੰ ਨਾਪਾਕੁ ਪਾਕੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੂਝਿਆ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਮਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਤੇ ਚੂਕਾ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਿਉ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੪॥ </big><br> | |||
You are impure; you do not understand the Pure Lord. You do not know His Mystery. Says Kabeer, you have missed out on paradise; your mind is set on hell. ||4||4||<br> | |||
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* [[Vegetarianism]] | * [[Vegetarianism]] | ||
* [[Vegetarianism Other Views]] | * [[Vegetarianism Other Views]] | ||
* [[Guru Granth Sahib against cruelty]] | |||
* [[Do not give pain to others]] | |||
* [[Cruelty and food]] | |||
==External links== | |||
* [http://www.celestialhealing.net/physicalveg3.htm How humans are not physically created to eat meat] | |||
* [http://www.4shared.com/file/206622274/d4fb43ea/Tamsik_bhojan-Muslim_Faqir_Ban.html Food have no relation with Spirit] | |||
* [https://www.sikhroots.com/literature/books/416-why-kill-a-chicken-by-bhai-joginder-singh-talwara PDF version of the book "Why Kill A Chicken" by Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara] | |||
=== Video === | |||
* [https://www.facebook.com/singhstation.net/videos/934600866558014/ Video by Bhai Manpreet Singh ji (Kanpuri) speech on Kakars Rehat] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHOFqW3SRMs Basics of Sikhi - Should we eat meat? Brunel Sikh Soc - Q&A #7] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLrdZrsfBuY SikhNet - Why be Vegetarian?] | |||
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9grdoNHPA0 Taksal view on Meat Part 1 of 2 ''(in Punjabi)''], [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PE5srUQIMk Taksal view on Meat Part 2 of 2 ''(in Punjabi)''] | |||
* [http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBwwwfSgC8 SIKHI AND MEAT-IS IT ALLOWED?] Gruesome video - exercise discretion (NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED) | |||
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Latest revision as of 20:02, 30 April 2020
This article is based entirely on the views expressed by the Sikh Gurus in Gurbani – and does not rely on any outside views. Guru's message is clear and unambiguous and anyone who understands Gurmukhi will be able to come to their own conclusion.
Gurbani i.e. writings within the Sri Guru Granth Sahib (or SGGS) are the most important spiritual guidance for a Sikh as the Bani is regarded as the Guru or ultimate "Spiritual teacher" for the Sikh. ("Bani guru, guru hai bani vich bani amrit saaray."… "Bani is Guru, and Guru is the Bani. Within Bani, all Ambrosial Nectars are found." sggs p982)
To be a Sikh is to regard the SGGS as ones primary spiritual guide. The message within the Guru Granth Sahib is the universal and moral guide for all of humanity and in particular for all Sikhs. No Hukamnama (order, directive or decree) by anyone other than the Sikh Guru can move the Guru's Sikh away from this stand ("Hukam rajaa-ee chalnaa naanak likhi-aa naal.." …. " O Nanak, it is written that you shall obey the Hukam of His Command, and walk in the Way of His Will". sggs p1).
Gurbani offers clear guidance on this important issue. The following quotes from Varan Bhai Gurdas and Sri Guru Granth Sahib give the Sikhs clear and concise direction on what a Sikh should eat or not eat and other aspect of this important facet of a person's spiritual and moral life.
Background
Bhai Gurdas Ji was the first scribe of the Adi Granth. He was responsible for writing the first compilation of the Holy Granth. While Guru Arjan Dev ji dictated the Bani, Bhai Sahib put the words to paper. He is recognised as the first "Scholar of Sikhism" and his own writings, called the Varan Bhai Gurdas were called by Guru Arjan Dev, "the Key to the Sri Guru Granth Sahib". The Varan also offer clear secondary guidance on this subject to the Sikh as well.
Despite this article outlining the fact that eating meat is not in strict compliance with the principles of Sikhism, it should be very clear to all that whether one eats meat or not, is only one aspect of the life of a Sikh. So no greater importance should be given to this issue at the expense of the many other issues which are of equal importance to a Sikh. It is not an issue where one should engage in heated argument - Read Gurbani and make your own decision on this matter.
This topic is very emotive and many Sikhs who cannot read or understand the original Gurmukhi text are unable to understand the Guru's clear message and will use their own Manmat (entrenched personal stand) or views of other academics to propagate their own views or views of other who have not relied on the Guru's word. When deciding on this subject or any other issue about Dharam (righteous living), a Sikh should rely only on Gurbani and disregard views of others. ("Saṯgur kī baṇī saṯ saṯ kar jāṇhu gursikẖahu har karṯā āp muhhu kadẖāe" … "O GurSikhs, know that the Bani, is true, absolutely true. The Creator Lord Himself causes the Guru to chant it." sggs p308 )
Shabads from Guru Granth Sahib
This section below lists shabads directly from Guru Granth Sahib which have a connection with meat and related matters. They are further sub-divided into sub-sections for easy of reference:
Shabads with the word "Kill"
The following shabads have the word kill in the translation:
Shabad page 723
SGGS Page 723 Full Shabad |
ਬੰਦੇ ਚਸਮ ਦੀਦੰ ਫਨਾਇ ॥ ਦੁਨਂੀਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰ ਖੁਰਦਨੀ ਗਾਫਲ ਹਵਾਇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ banday chasam deedaN fanaa-ay. O human being, whatever you can see with your eyes, shall perish. |
Shabad page 1103
SGGS Page 1103 Full Shabad |
ਜੀਅ ਬਧਹੁ ਸੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਅਧਰਮੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਤ ਭਾਈ ॥ ਆਪਸ ਕਉ ਮੁਨਿਵਰ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਹੁ ਕਾ ਕਉ ਕਹਹੁ ਕਸਾਈ ॥੨॥
jee-a baDhahu so Dharam kar thaapahu aDhram kahhu kat bhaa-ee. You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. |
Shabad page 1128
SGGS Page 1128 Full Shabad |
ਸੋ ਜਾਗੈ ਜੋ ਤਤੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੈ ॥ ਆਪਿ ਮਰੈ ਅਵਰਾ ਨਹ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੩॥ so jaagai jo tat beechaarai. One who contemplates the essence of reality remains awake and aware. |
Shabad page 1350
SGGS Page 1350 Full Shabad |
ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥ ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਕਹਤ ਹਉ ਤਉ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਰਗੀ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ bayd katayb kahhu mat jhoothay jhoothaa jo na bichaarai. Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. |
- See SGGS 1350 for detailed breakdown of the Shabad
Shabad page 1375
SGGS Page 1375 Full Shabad |
ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀਅ ਜੁ ਮਾਰਹਿ ਜੋਰੁ ਕਰਿ ਕਹਤੇ ਹਹਿ ਜੁ ਹਲਾਲੁ ॥ ਦਫਤਰੁ ਦਈ ਜਬ ਕਾਢਿ ਹੈ ਹੋਇਗਾ ਕਉਨੁ ਹਵਾਲੁ ॥੧੯੯॥ kabeer jee-a jo maareh jor kar kahtay heh jo halaal. Kabeer, they oppress living beings and kill them, and call it proper. |
Other Shabads connected with Meat
Shabad Page 15
SGGS Page 15 Full Shabad |
ਰਸੁ ਸੁਇਨਾ ਰਸੁ ਰੁਪਾ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਰਮਲ ਕੀ ਵਾਸੁ ॥ ਰਸੁ ਘੋੜੇ ਰਸੁ ਸੇਜਾ ਮੰਦਰ ਰਸੁ ਮੀਠਾ ਰਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ॥ ras su-inaa ras rupaa kaaman ras parmal kee vaas. The pleasure of gold, pleasure of silvers and damsels, pleasure of fragrance of sandal, |
- English translation by Bhai Manmohan Singh
Shabad Page 139
SGGS Page 139 Full Shabad |
ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ਖਾਇ ॥ ਅਵਰੀ ਨੋ ਸਮਝਾਵਣਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਮੁਠਾ ਆਪਿ ਮੁਹਾਏ ਸਾਥੈ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਐਸਾ ਆਗੂ ਜਾਪੈ ॥੧॥ |
Shabad Page 141
SGGS Page 141 Full Shabad |
ਹਕੁ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਉਸੁ ਸੂਅਰ ਉਸੁ ਗਾਇ ॥ ਗੁਰੁ ਪੀਰੁ ਹਾਮਾ ਤਾ ਭਰੇ ਜਾ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ਨ ਖਾਇ ॥ ਗਲੀ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਈਐ ਛੁਟੈ ਸਚੁ ਕਮਾਇ ॥ ਮਾਰਣ ਪਾਹਿ ਹਰਾਮ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਇ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ hak paraa-i-aa naankaa us soo-ar us gaa-ay. gur peer haamaa taa bharay jaa murdaar na khaa-ay.
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Shabad Page 483
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ਰੋਜਾ ਧਰੈ ਮਨਾਵੈ ਅਲਹੁ ਸੁਆਦਤਿ ਜੀਅ ਸੰਘਾਰੈ ॥ ਆਪਾ ਦੇਖਿ ਅਵਰ ਨਹੀ ਦੇਖੈ ਕਾਹੇ ਕਉ ਝਖ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥ You keep your fasts to please Allah, while you murder other beings for pleasure. |
Shabad Page 1242
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ਕਲਿ ਹੋਈ ਕੁਤੇ ਮੁਹੀ ਖਾਜੁ ਹੋਆ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ॥ ਕੂੜੁ ਬੋਲਿ ਬੋਲਿ ਭਉਕਣਾ ਚੂਕਾ ਧਰਮੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ kal ho-ee kutay muhee khaaj ho-aa murdaar. koorh bol bol bha-ukanaa chookaa Dharam beechaar. In this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, people have faces like dogs; they eat rotting carcasses for food. |
Shabad Page 1374
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ਕਬੀਰ ਜੋਰੀ ਕੀਏ ਜੁਲਮੁ ਹੈ ਕਹਤਾ ਨਾਉ ਹਲਾਲੁ ॥ ਦਫਤਰਿ ਲੇਖਾ ਮਾਂਗੀਐ ਤਬ ਹੋਇਗੋ ਕਉਨੁ ਹਵਾਲੁ ॥੧੮੭॥ ਕਬੀਰ ਖੂਬੁ ਖਾਨਾ ਖੀਚਰੀ ਜਾ ਮਹਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਲੋਨੁ ॥ ਹੇਰਾ ਰੋਟੀ ਕਾਰਨੇ ਗਲਾ ਕਟਾਵੈ ਕਉਨੁ ॥੧੮੮॥ Kabīr jorī kī▫e julam hai kahṯā nā▫o halāl. Ḏafṯar lekẖā māʼngī▫ai ṯab ho▫igo ka▫un havāl. (187) Kabeer, to use force is tyranny, even if you call it legal. |
Shabads in connection with fish
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ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ kabeer bhaaNg maachhulee suraa paan jo jo paraanee khaaNhi. Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine |
Shabads referring to "Eat a Simple Diet"
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ਓਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਮੰਦੈ ਪੈਰੁ ਨ ਰਖਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਸੁਕ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ ॥ ਓਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਤੋੜੇ ਬੰਧਨਾ ਅੰਨੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਥੋੜਾ ਖਾਇਆ ॥ onHee mandai pair na rakhi-o kar sukarit Dharam kamaa-i-aa. They do not place their feet in sin, but do good deeds and live righteously in Dharma. |
Fools Argue about Meat & Flesh
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SGGS Page 1289 Full Shabad |
ਮਃ ੧ ॥ मः १ ॥ mehlaa 1. First Mehl: ਮਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਝਗੜੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ ਕਉਣੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਉਣੁ ਸਾਗੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ਕਿਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਪਾਪ ਸਮਾਣੇ ॥ maas maas kar moorakh jhagrhay gi-aan Dhi-aan nahee jaanai. ka-un maas ka-un saag kahaavai kis meh paap samaanay. The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom. What is called meat, and what is called green vegetables? What leads to sin? It was the habit of the gods to kill the rhinoceros, and make a feast of the burnt offering. Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night. They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom. O Nanak, what can be said to the blind people? They cannot answer, or even understand what is said. |
Varan Bhai Gurdas ji - Key to SGGS
The following Shabads are from the Varan by Bhai Gurdas ji, whose Bani is referred to as the "Key" to the Sri Guru Granth Sahib:
Vaar 25 Pauri 17
ਪਉੜੀ 17 (ਬਕਰੀ) ਸੀਹ ਪਜੂਤੀ ਬਕਰੀ ਮਰਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਹੜ ਹੜ ਹਸੀ॥ ਸੀਹੁ ਪੁਛੈ ਵਿਸਮਾਦੁ ਹੋਇ ਇਤੁ ਅਉਸਰਿ ਕਿਤੁ ਰਹਸਿ ਰਹਸੀ॥ Pauri 17 (She Goat) Pauri 17 (She Goat) Lion catches a goat; As the goat is dying, it begins to laugh.
In awe the lion asks, why are you laughing? |
Vaar 25 Pauri 17 |
Vaar 31 Pauri 9
ਪਉੜੀ 9 ( ਪੂਤਨਾ ) ਜੇ ਕਰਿ ਉਧਰੀ ਪੂਤਨਾ ਵਿਹੁ ਪੀਆਲਣੁ ਕੰਮੁ ਨ ਚੰਗਾ । ਗਨਿਕਾ ਉਧਰੀ ਆਖੀਐ ਪਰ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਇ ਨ ਲਈਐ ਪੰਗਾ । Pauri 9 (Putana)
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Vaar 31 Pauri 9 |
Vaar 37 Pauri 21
ਪਉੜੀ 21 ( ਨਿਗੁਰਾ ਮਨਮੁਖੁ ਵਸ ਵਿਚ ਨਹੀ ਆ ਸਕਦਾ ) ਕੁਹੈ ਕਸਾਈ ਬਕਰੀ ਲਾਇ ਲੂਣ ਸੀਖ ਮਾਸੁ ਪਰੋਆ॥
ਹਸਿ ਹਸਿ ਬੋਲੇ ਕੁਹੀਂਦੀ ਖਾਧੇ ਅਕਿ ਹਾਲੁ ਇਹੁ ਹੋਆ॥ Pauri 21 (One having no Guru is uncontrollable) kuhai kasaaee bakaree laae loon seekh maas paroaa.
has has bolae kuhee(n)adhee khaadhhae ak haal eihu hoaa. Pauri 21 (One having no Guru is uncontrollable) The butcher slaughters the goat; salts the meat and strings it on a skewer. (note: Amphisbaena is a mythical serpent having a head at each end of its body.) |
Vaar 37 Pauri 21 |
Kabir On Meat Issue
ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥ ਜਉ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਖੁਦਾਇ ਕਹਤ ਹਉ ਤਉ ਕਿਉ ਮੁਰਗੀ ਮਾਰੈ ॥੧॥
Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false. You say that the One Lord is in all, so why do you kill chickens? ||1||
ਮੁਲਾਂ ਕਹਹੁ ਨਿਆਉ ਖੁਦਾਈ ॥ ਤੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
O Mullah, tell me: is this God's Justice? The doubts of your mind have not been dispelled. ||1||Pause||
ਪਕਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਆਨਿਆ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਮਾਟੀ ਕਉ ਬਿਸਮਿਲਿ ਕੀਆ ॥ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਰੂਪ ਅਨਾਹਤ ਲਾਗੀ ਕਹੁ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਕਿਆ ਕੀਆ ॥੨॥
You seize a living creature, and then bring it home and kill its body; you have killed only the clay. The light of the soul passes into another form. So tell me, what have you killed? ||2||
ਕਿਆ ਉਜੂ ਪਾਕੁ ਕੀਆ ਮੁਹੁ ਧੋਇਆ ਕਿਆ ਮਸੀਤਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ ਜਉ ਦਿਲ ਮਹਿ ਕਪਟੁ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਹੁ ਕਿਆ ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਇਆ ॥੩॥
And what good are your purifications? Why do you bother to wash your face? And why do you bother to bow your head in the mosque? Your heart is full of hypocrisy; what good are your prayers or your pilgrimage to Mecca? ||3||
ਤੂੰ ਨਾਪਾਕੁ ਪਾਕੁ ਨਹੀ ਸੂਝਿਆ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਮਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਨਿਆ ॥ ਕਹਿ ਕਬੀਰ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਤੇ ਚੂਕਾ ਦੋਜਕ ਸਿਉ ਮਨੁ ਮਾਨਿਆ ॥੪॥੪॥
You are impure; you do not understand the Pure Lord. You do not know His Mystery. Says Kabeer, you have missed out on paradise; your mind is set on hell. ||4||4||
Also See
- SGGS 1350
- Kuthha
- Vegetarianism
- Vegetarianism Other Views
- Guru Granth Sahib against cruelty
- Do not give pain to others
- Cruelty and food
External links
- How humans are not physically created to eat meat
- Food have no relation with Spirit
- PDF version of the book "Why Kill A Chicken" by Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara
Video
- Video by Bhai Manpreet Singh ji (Kanpuri) speech on Kakars Rehat
- Basics of Sikhi - Should we eat meat? Brunel Sikh Soc - Q&A #7
- SikhNet - Why be Vegetarian?
- Taksal view on Meat Part 1 of 2 (in Punjabi), Taksal view on Meat Part 2 of 2 (in Punjabi)
- SIKHI AND MEAT-IS IT ALLOWED? Gruesome video - exercise discretion (NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED)
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