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Many thanks to you all for reading these messages and making SikhiWiki such a success story for Sikhism and the number one site for Sikhi information! Hari Singh 23:25, 30 April 2008 (MDT)

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Sikh activist

SSA, Veerji, I was just reading a story on a Sikh activist who participated in a hate campaign with the BNP on a CD, willingly or unwillingly I do not know. But as I was adding the name Rajinder Singh, a Midlands-based Sikh activist I got a page on Sant Rajinder Singh b. 1946. I doubt that this is the same person. Having so many people with the same last name can cause confusion. So i decided not to add the page.

I just thought that speaking out about those who incite divisiveness is as important as citing the good work of those who fight it.

I would have not heard of the BNP, the Ashes trophy, or a Sikh who (Monty Panesar) is famed both for his athleticism and his comic antics, except for your continued postings. Hearing that Sikhs did not take offence at his fans donning fake beards and turbans was a relief--I guess it all depends on 'where one is coming from'. As we say in the country, "are ye fer us or agin us".

Cricket knowledge here in the US is about as rare as that of Kabadi. My knowledge of both is via Bollywood. The Sikhs portrayed in both movies were noble characters--Lagaan for the knowledge on cricket - i forget the movie's name for Kabadi. Just the other day Jarnail, aka user paapi, returned with a page on a new movie "Ocean Of Pearls" about a Sikh who trims his kesh. Looking at the photos of the actors in Mumbai (SikhNet News [1] )only the director was in Turban. I thought wow how sad that a Keshdhari could never play the lead part, as by doing so he would be breaking (an oath?). Just a few days later someone here or on sikhnet wrote to complain about non-Sikhs always getting the Sikh roles. Looks like things are changing; opening the topic up for conversation is, perhaps, the first step! regards Allenwalla 19:56, 20 June 2008

the Sikh mentioned

SSA, thanks for getting back, Sikh activist was what the article called the gentleman in the story on the right wing British party which used to attack Jews and has lately allowed a Jewish member in the group. They now are attacking Muslim immigrants and the man mentioned was participating in the CD they distributed, not in Sikh Activism per Khalistan.

I read of this political party which i had never heard of, in BS's comment on Sarika Singh and the Kara issue. For a Sikh (who that party will still not allow as a member - they now state that they see the Sikh contributions in England as being positive) to participate in a hate campaign against anyone especially with the history of the Komagata maru incident just seemed a little odd.

Also caught your comment on the Ranjit Singh photo in the recent changes files. My hope is that the people who have posted the photo in several Gurdwaras will look at the page and see the later picture with modern ammo belts (clip cases, ect.) and the robust Afgani Sardar who was thought to be S. Hari Singh Nalwa with a grey beard rethink having the photos in the Gurdwaras.

I have greatly admired the General for years--to think that the brother of the man who had lead the attack that resulted in his death was being touted as Maharaja Ranjit Singh and some unknown Afgani was being labeled as the Sikh General just seemed wrong. But truth is a funny thing, people believe what they believe. thanks richard

Poster or graphic included in page

Dear Sir, SSA,

This poster labels Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale as an innocent priest. Last night i was reading a page which said that:

Sikhism stands out as a unique and probably the only faith in the world where in there is no place what so ever for clergy or priestly class.

Am i reading this wrong, is it intended to say their are no priests in Sikhi-that every Sikh is equal and that if i were to learn to read Gurmukhi that i might be able during services in a Gurdwara read from the SGGS during a service or would I have to be a member of the Khalsa. Would I have to take Amrit to do this? Can Sikhs who are non-Amritdharis do this.

Or are the important words in the above sentence the ones which say there is no class of Priests? The sentence implies that all other religions have a priestly class. I know that Hinduism has a Priestly 'Caste'. I do not think that protestant Christianity which arose from Catholicism and the belief that no man needed another man to intercede between him and God considers itself to have a priestly class.

I know that Hindus have often believed that a Guru was a necessity for every man. I thought that Guru Nanak wanted to get rid of the Priestly class.

Also I think that using the Sant with the line pointing to him saying that- These Arabs/Sikhs and Middle easteners have been harassed is a poor choice, as he was Martyred long before 9/11. To put him beside or on the same page with two criminals such as Bin Laden and T. McVeigh (both mass murderers) is questionable in my opinion. I know it was done in the heat of the moment- i am just asking if it is the best thing to leave in this forum/page which will also serve as a time capsule.

Rab Rakha, richard

Please remove me from active Status

SSA, it has been an honor to see my name added at the front of the list of active people. And an honor to be awarded the star. I am not sure if my contributions are helping and medical problems (i am now often typing letters other that the ones i intended to type--highly bothersome, especially since it requires time to reread and correct) are neccesitating my withdrawal from daily participation. I will look in from time to time to see how things are going. Please let me know if my page can be reinstated in the future. Thanks for all the help you all have given me. Love to you all and may God bless you all. Das, Allenwalla 15:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sir

History Gurdwara Toka Sahib

Gurdwara Toka Sahib info provided over website is wrong. (Lucky 13:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

• • First the persons who stole gurus animals were Gujjars not Rangarhs and second the animals were horses not camels. My Granddad was president f gurdwara he know whole history i think people which came further to my granddad do gabhla in history. the Tap asthaan is given that is not actually tap asthaan. Guru Jee might did tap there but that place is kangha sahib and that shaheedi place of two soldeirs i think there is gabhlaa too. I think i have to visit gurdwara sahib again when i was 6th from bachpan to 6th class i visited this shrine after i came to mohali i never visited it again bec very few times i went to my village 5 - 6 time till know. i think i have to enquire again. What happened to the history know one more thing is coming in my mind that the old well and Neem tree and bamboos are saved or not these three were historical too. (Lucky 18:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC))

• • I had asked My Grand Dad and My Faternal Uncle and his wife they told me the same which i told you and someone has misguided that persons. Actually i have the picture of historical board at toka sahib which now i am uploading but just it is given that when guru jee arrived there etc but not told about the story. Well its difficult for me to visit this place as my village and gurdwara is 70 KM from here and i need time for that. i wrote the comment on amritworld too you can check out there, but no response had been made. and i think the bhai who told amritworld team, the history of gurdwara has misguided them. I confirmed all history from my granddad and faternal uncle and father too. (Lucky 05:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

See the pic what a great pic at gurdwara shahidan ladhewal

• • Guru Gobind Singh's horses were stolen so thats why whole happened. Maalik Hamesha apnee cheez pashaan lainda. This changed to camel by new presidents or that bhai which told them history. I born in 80's and till 97 i stood near toka sahib. Before 80's till 97 the animals which stolen were horses, but after 97 it changed to camels, after 2020 they will change them to elephants gifted by mehdini parkash. Tuhanu imey nahin lagda jimey history naal eh ajj diyan jathedaariyan khed rahiyan nae. When i entered gurdwara main tohar naal janda see hunn ajeeb lag reha. I will ask and tell them that those were horses not camels.
    One more thing. See this article Guru Nanak in Uganda, I know you must have contacts in africa as uncle kehar singh jee told me that they were in kenya, nairobi etc. I want you do do one thing please find out the place or tell someone to find if you are busy some afrikan you must knoe someone and bring snaps and detail info of that place. Try it God bless you sat shri akaal(Lucky 18:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

Saucha Sauda and Sarika

Sir ji had asked how there could be such anger over the baba i learned today that even the name would upset many Sikhs. i had forgotten my earlier questions on the meaning of the two words. He has none of the manly warrior hunter soldier teacher qualities of the Deshmesh Guru.

Very impressed by the back and forth comments and retorts by you and BS. i removed my comments and questions from the page as my questions paled in comparison to those of both of you. I think the thoughts of each of you would be good as a page and should not just dissapear as some comments on a story soon to fade and rarely read. For me being caught between the two of you was like being a child who went unseen and unheard.

Good to be in a world with two who represent Sikhi so well and eloquently and have such a mastery of language and civility. richard

No Sir i have done nothing

• I want to thank to all sources from where i get the info and put on this website.
• I want to thank my freind Jarnail Singh who helped me a lot to collect sikhi info.
• thanks to my father due to the facility provided by him(internet), i am able to surf your website and update it accordingly.
• I want to thank you the camera send by you for sake of sikhism so that i can continue clicking the photograph and upload it on net, the confidence you gave me and giving now too.

Eh sabh wekh kae eh feel hunda kee main taan kujh kita he nahin jo kita tusan sabh nae kita. Nalae haley kehra job finish hoyi hai. haley bohot kujh peya hai. Hoshiarpur ch sikhi dae bohot kendar hann haley updations hoshiarpur de payi hai haley sara india baaki hai.

Well ajj main hoshiarpur challeya 15 minute tak niklan lageyaaa. If god helps today i will able to capture the wonderful shrine at Bajwara where Mata Sunder kaur the wife of guru gobind singh je were born. Baaki Rabb jimey chahey. Ajj pooree traat sutta nahin bus ch jaakey sonda. Challo take care sat shri akaal to all. Howz your father know. Ya next time zaroor milangae. (Lucky 23:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC))